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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe
| [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #230398] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 09:41 |
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Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them up.
thankyou.
naomi
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #230402 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 10:46 |
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naomi wrote:
> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them up.
Um, except that ALL normal pancakes are thin and can be (and often are)
rolled up.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234452 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 12:06 |
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naomi wrote:
> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them
> up.
From memory, this is my usual mix:
6dl milk (unskimmed)
3dl white wheat flour
3 eggs
A pinch of salt.
Mix milk and flour, add salt and eggs. Stir. Fry in butter. Best results
from a non-non-stick cast iron frying pan.
Orjan
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234453 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 12:20 |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 01:46:09 -0800, Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
> naomi wrote:
>> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
>> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
>> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
>> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them up.
>
> Um, except that ALL normal pancakes are thin and can be (and often are)
> rolled up.
>
> Adrian.
I'm not Swedish either, but I just typed out "Swedish Pancakes" on my
Google, and it came up with dozens of different pancake recipes for me,
both sweet, and savoury - the choice is yours!
All the best
Sofie
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234459 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 13:42 |
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Orjan Westin wrote:
> naomi wrote:
> > Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
> > lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
> > craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
> > proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them
> > up.
>
> From memory, this is my usual mix:
>
> 6dl milk (unskimmed)
> 3dl white wheat flour
> 3 eggs
> A pinch of salt.
>
> Mix milk and flour, add salt and eggs. Stir. Fry in butter. Best results
> from a non-non-stick cast iron frying pan.
The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls "swedish
pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type that are simply
called *pancakes* in Australia and many other countries *anyway*. So
I'm curious as to what her source is for calling them Swedish. After
all, it is undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
and frequently are - rolled up.
For reference, below are two Australian pancake recipes. I include two
because, of course, every family has its own variation, so including
more than one helps to indicate the range of variations that are
accepted under the banner of "the normal sort of pancake".
Toppings? Typical choices among Australian consumers include:
(a) Lemon and sugar - in which case the pancake is usually rolled up.
(b) Maple syrup - in which case the pancake is usually rolled up.
(c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
you can't roll up icecream.
Adrian.
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Recipe #1 - this is the one my family uses
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Solid ingredients:
Equal proportions of plain flour and self-raising flour by volume.
Liquid ingredients:
Egg and milk in the proportion of 2/3 egg to 1/3 milk by volume, using
one egg per person. Also, a small quantity of melted butter.
Mix solid and liquid ingredients together until the consistency is
right. Fry as in Orjan's version.
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Recipe #2 - this is from my late grandmother's collection
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1/2 pt milk
4oz (125g) flour
1 egg
1 pinch salt
Sift flour, add salt, add egg whole, stir in flour from sides, add milk
slowly, when 1/2 milk is used all flour must be damp.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234462 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 14:00 |
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On 4 Mar 2006 04:42:21 -0800, "Flesh-eating Dragon"
<dragon [at] netyp.com.au> jotted down:
>The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls "swedish
>pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type that are simply
>called *pancakes* in Australia and many other countries *anyway*. So
>I'm curious as to what her source is for calling them Swedish. After
>all, it is undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
>and frequently are - rolled up.
American pancakes have baking powder in them and get a lot
thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable. Over there
thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
>(c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
>you can't roll up icecream.
Yes, you can. I have done so all my life. Swedish pancakes
are, to the best of my knowledge, always eaten rolled up, no
matter wether you put ice-cream or mushrooms in thick sause
(or anything else [1]) in them.
[1] Though ketchup is apparently not to be recommended.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234464 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 14:10 |
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Also Sprach Graycat:
> On 4 Mar 2006 04:42:21 -0800, "Flesh-eating Dragon"
> <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> jotted down:
>
>
>>The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi
>>calls "swedish pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the
>>type that are simply called *pancakes* in Australia and
>>many other countries *anyway*. So I'm curious as to what
>>her source is for calling them Swedish. After all, it is
>>undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
>>and frequently are - rolled up.
>
> American pancakes have baking powder in them and get a lot
> thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable. Over there
> thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
In Scotland these are also called pancakes. In the rest of the
UK they're drop scones, or Scotch pancakes.
Sometimes we call them scones as well, and the thin kind of
pancake is *also* called a pancake, to cause confusion.
--
Dave
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234467 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 14:36 |
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Graycat wrote:
> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
>
> >The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls "swedish
> >pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type that are simply
> >called *pancakes* in Australia and many other countries *anyway*. So
> >I'm curious as to what her source is for calling them Swedish. After
> >all, it is undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
> >and frequently are - rolled up.
>
> American pancakes have baking powder in them and get a lot
> thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable. Over there
> thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller, thicker,
and sweeter)
> >(c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
> >you can't roll up icecream.
>
> Yes, you can. I have done so all my life. Swedish pancakes
> are, to the best of my knowledge, always eaten rolled up, no
> matter wether you put ice-cream or mushrooms in thick sause
> (or anything else [1]) in them.
So in other words:
Always Often Not
Rolled Rolled Rolled
Up Up Up
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Sweden Australia America
Savoury pancakes are very unusual here.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234471 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 15:24 |
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On 4 Mar 2006 05:36:45 -0800, "Flesh-eating Dragon"
<dragon [at] netyp.com.au> jotted down:
>Graycat wrote:
>> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
>> >(c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
>> >you can't roll up icecream.
>>
>> Yes, you can. I have done so all my life. Swedish pancakes
>> are, to the best of my knowledge, always eaten rolled up, no
>> matter wether you put ice-cream or mushrooms in thick sause
>> (or anything else [1]) in them.
>
>So in other words:
>
>Always Often Not
>Rolled Rolled Rolled
> Up Up Up
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>Sweden Australia America
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>Savoury pancakes are very unusual here.
Well, do you consider them a meal or a dessert? They used to
be considered a dessert [1] here, but that's changing.
I had food-pancakes in Sydney, in a foodcourt.
[1] Or a sort of second course after soup, preferably pea
soup and eaten on thursdas. Hot punch optional.
--
Elin
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234472 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 15:29 |
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Graycat wrote:
> On 4 Mar 2006 04:42:21 -0800, "Flesh-eating Dragon"
> <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> jotted down:
>
>> (c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
>> you can't roll up icecream.
>
> Yes, you can. I have done so all my life. Swedish pancakes
> are, to the best of my knowledge, always eaten rolled up, no
> matter wether you put ice-cream or mushrooms in thick sause
> (or anything else [1]) in them.
>
> [1] Though ketchup is apparently not to be recommended.
They're sometimes eaten folded twice, forming a quarter-circle wedge.
Ketchup isn't good, I know, but a spicy tomato sauce with some grated cheese
(or chunks of feta) is a very nice filling.
Orjan
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234477 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 16:24 |
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Graycat wrote:
> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
> >Savoury pancakes are very unusual here.
>
> Well, do you consider them a meal or a dessert? They used to
> be considered a dessert [1] here, but that's changing.
A meal ... or rather, I consider *two* pancakes to be a meal ... but a
somewhat *unusual* meal in which there is no savoury course. This would
be because pancakes are more nutritious than typical desserts
(remember, my family's recipe contains one whole egg per person), so
they serve the role of both main course (nutrition - up to a point,
better than a lot of junk food, anyway) and dessert (sweetness)
simultaneously.
When I lived with my parents, we had pancakes as a meal every Sunday
evening.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234484 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 19:12 |
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"Flesh-eating Dragon" wrote ...
> Graycat wrote:
>> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
>>
>> >The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls
>> >"swedish pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type
>> >that are simply called *pancakes* in Australia and many other
>> >countries *anyway*. American pancakes have baking powder
>> >in them and get a lot thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable.
>> >Over there thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
> Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller,
> thicker, and sweeter)
>
In Canada there are pancakes, flapjacks, and them forn things
called crepes.
Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
disgusting (even if your dad is renowned for his buttermilk
pancakes, bleah). Dollar pancakes are made from the same
batter, and about 2 inches in diameter, and made in an effort
to entice reluctant children to suddenly discover the light about
pancakes (not guaranteed to work, bleah). Both are served
hot in stacks of two or three (sometimes they are shown in
higher stacks, but usually only in syrup commmercials), with
butter in between the layers and on top, then drenched in
syrup (maple, blueberry, whatever).[1] If you try to bend
them to roll them up, they will break.
Flapjacks are made from a runnier batter, cooked until
they are darker on both sides, with slightly bubblier edges,
slightly thinner, made 6 to 8 inches in diameter (without any
effort to entice children with cutesy versions), served in a similar
style to pancakes above, but I've often seen them served only
one at a time, especially at fundraiser pancake breakfasts.
You might have better luck rolling these up, but at best they
would be a thick revolting squudgy lump.
Pancakes & flapjacks are considered breakfast food, although
considering the longer cooking time, usually reserved for a
weekend breakfast, or a family reunion with a cast of millions.
Or the aforementioned fundraiser or promotional pancake
breakfast, where unskilled volunteers can't go too wrong with
a powdered mix & water.
Crepes were originally only served in restaurants, and they
are not something that would appear at any of my families'
tables for any meal. You can get very nice ones at the
Cafe du Soleil, in the 1300 block of Commercial Drive,
with either a sweet or a savory filling.
However, I'm a waffle girl, myself. Crispier, and more
hollows for melted butter, and you can add cocoa to the
batter and have chocolate waffles - mmmmmmmm. :)
So, if you order pancakes in Canada (& the USA), you
are going to be first: surprised, and then second: disgusted.
April.
[1] - let me just say a heartfelt YUCK here. Thank you.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234485 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 19:18 |
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"April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
<snip>
> Or the aforementioned fundraiser or promotional pancake
> breakfast, where unskilled volunteers can't go too wrong with
> a powdered mix & water.
<snip>
Sorry, replying to self, sorry sorry sorry.
I forgot the Shrove Tuesday Pancake Suppers, which
are the same as a fundraiser breakfast, only served after
work in the evening at the church hall.
April.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234487 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 19:44 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
> Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller, thicker,
> and sweeter)
We have them in the UK. Nice while they're warm.
CCA
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234488 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 19:59 |
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick
Nononononononono!!!
I'd estimate that pancakes are about 8 or 9 inches in diameter, and
about 1/8 of an inch thick (I'm only estimating the thicknesses, you
understand, having not actually measured them, so these are intuitive
sounds-about-right values). Ingredients as previously given.
Pikelets are about 3 or 4 inches in diameter, and about 1/4 of an inch
thick. Unlike pancakes, the batter contains carb soda and sugar. The
recipes I have here include one tablespoon of sugar for every cup of
flour.
There is no such thing as a foodstuff which resembles a pancake but is
much thicker than 1/4 inch.
> Both are served hot in stacks of two or three
You sometimes get stacked pancakes when you eat out, but such things
are very rare in home cooking, which is what I'm talking about.
> higher stacks, but usually only in syrup commmercials), with
> butter in between the layers and on top, then drenched in
> syrup (maple, blueberry, whatever).[1] If you try to bend
> them to roll them up, they will break.
There is no such thing as the imaginary foodstuff which you are
describing. <sef>
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234491 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 22:32 |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:10:22 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> American pancakes have baking powder in them and get a lot
>> thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable. Over there
>> thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
>
> In Scotland these are also called pancakes. In the rest of the
> UK they're drop scones, or Scotch pancakes.
Thank god for that! I thought for a minute I'd been making pancakes
wrong all these years, just because I made them really flat, and reserved
my baking powder for my bread to rise! :-)
All the best
Sofie
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234492 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 22:41 |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:12:44 GMT, "April Goodwin-Smith"
<agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca> jotted down:
>In Canada there are pancakes, flapjacks, and them forn things
>called crepes.
>
>Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
>disgusting (even if your dad is renowned for his buttermilk
>pancakes, bleah).
Oh goodie, I'm not alone in thinking this. Give me hash
browns for breakfast anyday.
--
Elin
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234495 ] |
Sa, 04 März 2006 22:13 |
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CCA <sphira9343 [at] aol.com> wrote:
> Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
>
> > Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller, thicker,
> > and sweeter)
>
> We have them in the UK. Nice while they're warm.
Yet in other parts of the UK, they are completely unknown to people who
don't read AFP.
Remember, "We do things differently here" is usually up to a diameter of
between one and one thousand metres...
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234504 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 00:47 |
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in article 1141465569.002277.283760 [at] t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com,
Flesh-eating Dragon at dragon [at] netyp.com.au wrote on 04/03/2006 1:46 AM:
> naomi wrote:
>> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
>> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
>> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
>> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them up.
>
> Um, except that ALL normal pancakes are thin and can be (and often are)
> rolled up.
Not at all. Those are called crepes in North America, while pancakes are
smaller in diameter and thicker, possibly because the batter is thicker to
begin with. Both are delicious.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234506 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 00:58 |
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in article 1141476141.057152.217600 [at] z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
Flesh-eating Dragon at dragon [at] netyp.com.au wrote on 04/03/2006 4:42 AM:
> Orjan Westin wrote:
>> naomi wrote:
>
>>> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
>>> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
>>> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
>>> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them
>>> up.
>>
>> From memory, this is my usual mix:
>>
>> 6dl milk (unskimmed)
>> 3dl white wheat flour
>> 3 eggs
>> A pinch of salt.
>>
>> Mix milk and flour, add salt and eggs. Stir. Fry in butter. Best results
>> from a non-non-stick cast iron frying pan.
>
> The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls "swedish
> pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*.
Except that the batter for what I used to call pancakes in England and now
call crepes in Canada (except when it's just the two of us at home) has less
egg in it.
>Of the type that are simply
> called *pancakes* in Australia and many other countries *anyway*.
That would be Australia (and some other ex-Empire countries) and the UK.
Other European countries have their own names for them, and North America
calls them crepes.
> So
> I'm curious as to what her source is for calling them Swedish. After
> all, it is undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
> and frequently are - rolled up.
>
> For reference, below are two Australian pancake recipes. I include two
> because, of course, every family has its own variation, so including
> more than one helps to indicate the range of variations that are
> accepted under the banner of "the normal sort of pancake".
In this context, "normal" is the quintessential example of an idiosyncratic
value judgement.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234508 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 01:04 |
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Also Sprach Flesh-eating Dragon:
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>
>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick
>
> Nononononononono!!!
<snip>
> There is no such thing as the imaginary foodstuff which you
> are describing. <sef>
You think she's talking crepe?
--
Dave
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So, 05 März 2006 01:17 |
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in article wMkOf.102306$H%4.628 [at] pd7tw2no, April Goodwin-Smith at
agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca wrote on 04/03/2006 10:12 AM:
> "Flesh-eating Dragon" wrote ...
>> Graycat wrote:
>>> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
>>>
>>>> The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls
>>>> "swedish pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type
>>>> that are simply called *pancakes* in Australia and many other
>>>> countries *anyway*. American pancakes have baking powder
>>>> in them and get a lot thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable.
>>>> Over there thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
>> Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller,
>> thicker, and sweeter)
>>
>
> In Canada there are pancakes, flapjacks, and them forn things
> called crepes.
>
> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
> disgusting
No they're not! Made properly so that they're light and fluffy, and served
with back bacon or the right kind of sausages with butter and *real* maple
syrup - yum!
<snip>
> Pancakes & flapjacks are considered breakfast food, although
> considering the longer cooking time, usually reserved for a
> weekend breakfast, or a family reunion with a cast of millions.
> Or the aforementioned fundraiser or promotional pancake
> breakfast, where unskilled volunteers can't go too wrong with
> a powdered mix & water.
Ah! There's the problem. They must be made from scratch and not mixed too
well, so that there are still lumps of eggy flour in them, and the batter
must be fairly thick. The pan must be *really* hot and *really* lightly
oiled with an oil that has no taste or colour and doesn't smoke, and they
must be cooked for as short a time as possible and served immediately. All
of this I have learned from bitter experience since coming to Canada.
<snip>
>
> However, I'm a waffle girl, myself. Crispier, and more
> hollows for melted butter, and you can add cocoa to the
> batter and have chocolate waffles - mmmmmmmm. :)
Waffles are too difficult for me, and I've never had the courage to even
think about cleaning a waffle iron after use.
>
> So, if you order pancakes in Canada (& the USA), you
> are going to be first: surprised, and then second: disgusted.
Well yes, if you order them. Not if you make them, though.
--
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234510 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 01:26 |
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in article HRkOf.102137$B94.35936 [at] pd7tw3no, April Goodwin-Smith at
agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca wrote on 04/03/2006 10:18 AM:
> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ...
> <snip>
>> Or the aforementioned fundraiser or promotional pancake
>> breakfast, where unskilled volunteers can't go too wrong with
>> a powdered mix & water.
> <snip>
>
> Sorry, replying to self, sorry sorry sorry.
>
> I forgot the Shrove Tuesday Pancake Suppers, which
> are the same as a fundraiser breakfast, only served after
> work in the evening at the church hall.
Which kind of pancakes? In England, people make the crepes type for Shrove
Tuesday and serve them with a little caster (berry) sugar and a little
freshly-squeezed lemon juice and rolled up. We still carry on the tradition
here, so that I had a really busy time last week, making pancakes for
Tuesday and then Welsh cakes and a lamb-and-leek pie for Wednesday. Worth it
though, even though the pie should have been cawl and would have been if we
could have afforded the kind of lamb you need for that instead of the ground
(minced) lamb that will do for a pie. People don't seem to eat lamb much
here, so it's really expensive.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234511 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 01:28 |
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in article pan.2006.03.04.21.32.15.204507 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com, Sofia at
pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com wrote on 04/03/2006 1:32 PM:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:10:22 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>>> American pancakes have baking powder in them and get a lot
>>> thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable. Over there
>>> thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
>>
>> In Scotland these are also called pancakes. In the rest of the
>> UK they're drop scones, or Scotch pancakes.
>
>
> Thank god for that! I thought for a minute I'd been making pancakes
> wrong all these years, just because I made them really flat, and reserved
> my baking powder for my bread to rise! :-)
You put baking powder in your bread? Though soda bread can be very nice.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234514 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 01:54 |
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"Daibhid Ceanaideach" <daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977DC35A146daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4...
> Also Sprach Flesh-eating Dragon:
>
>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick
>>
>> Nononononononono!!!
>
> <snip>
>
>> There is no such thing as the imaginary foodstuff which you
>> are describing. <sef>
>
> You think she's talking crepe?
Or maybe Auzzies have a batter definition of pancakes.
~Jess.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234515 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 03:03 |
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
> > naomi wrote:
> >> Calling all Swede's (gee you guys are popular atm), I 've misplaced,
> >> lost or eaten my recipie for swedish style pancakes. I have a bid
> >> craving, would you share your recipies with me. I can't remember the
> >> proper name,but they are the type that are thin and you can roll them up.
> >
> > Um, except that ALL normal pancakes are thin and can be (and often are)
> > rolled up.
>
> Not at all. Those are called crepes in North America, while pancakes are
> smaller in diameter and thicker, possibly because the batter is thicker to
> begin with. Both are delicious.
But Naomi's in Australia like me, so it's strange that she should think
of rollable pancakes as Swedish.
Adrian.
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| Re: Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234516 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 03:23 |
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Lesley Weston wrote:
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
> > Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
> > in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
> > disgusting
>
> No they're not! Made properly so that they're light and fluffy, and served
> with back bacon or the right kind of sausages with butter and *real* maple
> syrup - yum!
Maple syrup with *meat*? You're weird. :-)
Most of the maple syrup that I use is squirted onto a bowl of fruit,
custard and muesli. I don't make pancakes for myself.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234517 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 04:05 |
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naomi wrote:
>> Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls "swedish
>>> pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type that are simply
>>> called *pancakes* in Australia and many other countries *anyway*. So
>>> I'm curious as to what her source is for calling them Swedish. After
>>> all, it is undoubtably true that typical Australian pancakes can be -
>>> and frequently are - rolled up.
>>>
>>> For reference, below are two Australian pancake recipes. I include two
>>> because, of course, every family has its own variation, so including
>>> more than one helps to indicate the range of variations that are
>>> accepted under the banner of "the normal sort of pancake".
>>>
>>> Toppings? Typical choices among Australian consumers include:
>>>
>>> (a) Lemon and sugar - in which case the pancake is usually rolled up.
>>> (b) Maple syrup - in which case the pancake is usually rolled up.
>>> (c) Icecream and jam - in which case the pancake is eaten flat, 'cos
>>> you can't roll up icecream.
>>>
>>> Adrian.
In my family ( my Dad is from finland and even though mum's family is
aussie she didn't learn to cook till after they were married so mainly
cooked scandinavian style things) we had two pancake recipes.
one of them was a finnish style pancake. I'm sure one of the finnish
afp'ers have described this in another cooking thread. it is cooked in a
pan in the oven and you sliced it into serves , it is about 2.5
cetimetres thick.
The other is from a recipe which a swedish friend gave her and is more
like what you call a 'normal' pancake. As we grew up asking for either
finnish 'oven' pancake or swedish pancake these are the two I know.
When I have eaten pancakes at other people's houses they have either
been piklets (tiny pancakes which are made from about a table spoon of
batter and are quite thick) or if they have called them pancakes it is
like the same thickness but bigger.
I'm sorry I've offended you Adrian, I asked for swedish pancakes
because that is what I grew up eating and have no idea about pancake
recipies used in other Aussie families and I don't like the recipie my
husband grew up using.
naomi
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234518 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 04:46 |
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naomi wrote:
> I'm sorry I've offended you Adrian,
What? Huh? Where on earth do you get the impression that you offended
me?
You *surprised* me, and you also made me *interested* to know why you
call them Swedish.
If it's a habit of yours to assume that people are offended just
because they argue with you, I reckon we ought to break that habit.
Here. <passes Naomi an axe> Very useful for breaking things.
Adrian.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234519 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 05:07 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon wrote:
> naomi wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry I've offended you Adrian,
>
> What? Huh? Where on earth do you get the impression that you offended
> me?
>
> You *surprised* me, and you also made me *interested* to know why you
> call them Swedish.
>
> If it's a habit of yours to assume that people are offended just
> because they argue with you, I reckon we ought to break that habit.
> Here. <passes Naomi an axe> Very useful for breaking things.
>
> Adrian.
>
Thankyou Adrian, I shall employ it regularly.
Naomi
Wielder of the mighty axe 'Habit breaker'.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234521 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 07:07 |
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Graycat <graycat.meow [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:12:44 GMT, "April Goodwin-Smith"
> <agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca> jotted down:
>
>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
>> disgusting (even if your dad is renowned for his buttermilk
>> pancakes, bleah).
>
> Oh goodie, I'm not alone in thinking this. Give me hash
> browns for breakfast anyday.
Yeah, but hold the browns.
Regards,
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| Re: Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234522 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 07:09 |
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Flesh-eating Dragon <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> wrote:
>
> Maple syrup with *meat*? You're weird. :-)
Ham is pretty good with either syrup or honey.
Regards,
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234523 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 08:31 |
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"Flesh-eating Dragon" wrote ...
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote:
>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick
>
> Nononononononono!!!
<snip>
> There is no such thing as the imaginary foodstuff which you are
> describing. <sef>
>
I wish.
No, really.
Eeeeeew.
April.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234524 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 08:31 |
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"Graycat" wrote ...
> "April Goodwin-Smith" jotted down:
>>Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>>in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
>>disgusting
> Oh goodie, I'm not alone in thinking this. <snip>
>
Sing it, sister.
April.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234525 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 08:32 |
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"Lesley Weston" wrote ...
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote :
<snip>
>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
>> disgusting
>
> No they're not! Made properly so that they're light and fluffy,
> and served with back bacon or the right kind of sausages with
> butter and *real* maple syrup - yum!
>
Oh yes they are. Seriously, my dad is well-known for his skill
with the griddle, and he makes his batter from scratch, and people
are pounding their knives and forks on the table, saying, "yay, we
get to eat Jim's pancakes; we've been looking forward to this
ever since we knew we were coming out to BC."
And I'm in the background saying, "oh, gag a maggot."
<snip>
> <snip>
>>
>> However, I'm a waffle girl, myself. Crispier, and more
>> hollows for melted butter, and you can add cocoa to the
>> batter and have chocolate waffles - mmmmmmmm. :)
>
> Waffles are too difficult for me, and I've never had the
> courage to even think about cleaning a waffle iron
> after use.
>
Really? Waffles are easy peasy. Okay, my mom's old
waffle iron had removable plates for scrubbing in the sink,
and my new one has a teflon coating that just needs to be
wiped cleaned. The neato-keen thing about a waffle iron
is that you can do french toast in it, too. Crispy, dimpled
french toast - yum.
Oh yes, by waffle iron I mean the old fashioned ones with
lots of shallow dimples, not the so-called "belgium" waffles
with fewer deeper dents than make thicker waffles that have
a revolting similarity to the disgustingly squashy texture of
Canadian pancakes. No.
I never order waffles when out - they're never right.
April.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234527 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 08:32 |
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"Lesley Weston" wrote ...
> April Goodwin-Smith wrote :
<snip>
>> I forgot the Shrove Tuesday Pancake Suppers, which
>> are the same as a fundraiser breakfast, only served after
>> work in the evening at the church hall.
>
> Which kind of pancakes?
>
Not the crepe kind. No, indeedy.
April.
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234528 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 09:21 |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:17:53 GMT, Lesley Weston
<brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk> jotted down:
>in article wMkOf.102306$H%4.628 [at] pd7tw2no, April Goodwin-Smith at
>agoodwinsmith [at] shaw.ca wrote on 04/03/2006 10:12 AM:
>
>> "Flesh-eating Dragon" wrote ...
>>> Graycat wrote:
>>>> Flesh-eating Dragon jotted down:
>>>>
>>>>> The impression I get from this thread is that what Naomi calls
>>>>> "swedish pancakes" are simply, um, *pancakes*. Of the type
>>>>> that are simply called *pancakes* in Australia and many other
>>>>> countries *anyway*. American pancakes have baking powder
>>>>> in them and get a lot thicker. Also they are smaller an un-rollable.
>>>>> Over there thin pancakes get called crepes. (iirc)
>>> Do Americans have pikelets? (i.e. like pancakes, but smaller,
>>> thicker, and sweeter)
>>>
>>
>> In Canada there are pancakes, flapjacks, and them forn things
>> called crepes.
>>
>> Pancakes are made from a thick batter, about 4 to 6 inches
>> in diameter, from 1/2 to 3/4 an inch thick - and they are
>> disgusting
>
>No they're not! Made properly so that they're light and fluffy, and served
>with back bacon or the right kind of sausages with butter and *real* maple
>syrup - yum!
Yes...and then they taste like bathroom sponges soaked in
sugar and fat. Vast improvement...
--
Elin
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234529 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 09:25 |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:05:22 GMT, naomi
<kittenkat [at] dodo.com.au> jotted down:
> In my family ( my Dad is from finland and even though mum's family is
>aussie she didn't learn to cook till after they were married so mainly
>cooked scandinavian style things) we had two pancake recipes.
>
>one of them was a finnish style pancake. I'm sure one of the finnish
>afp'ers have described this in another cooking thread. it is cooked in a
>pan in the oven and you sliced it into serves , it is about 2.5
>cetimetres thick.
We have that here too, but we call them "oven pancakes". I
didn't like it when I was a kid, but I enjoy it more now.
Best results if you put bacon cubes (fried) in the pan
before pouring the batter in and serve it all with grated
carrots and lingonberry jam. Applemash (or whatever that
might actually be called in English) works too.
--
Elin
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| Re: Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234530 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 09:26 |
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 01:09:08 -0500, "Arthur Hagen"
<art [at] broomstick.com> jotted down:
>Flesh-eating Dragon <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Maple syrup with *meat*? You're weird. :-)
>
>Ham is pretty good with either syrup or honey.
And best with honey mustard :o)
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| Re: [I] Swedish Pancake Recipe [message #234537 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 12:34 |
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Graycat <graycat.meow [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Applemash (or whatever that might actually be called in English) works
> too.
"Apple sauce".
Regards,
--
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